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07 Jun 2020 12:01:24
Apologies if it’s not for this page but I just didn’t know where else to put it.

I woke up this morning to see there were pockets of violence in the protests last night, how to people find this acceptable? I’m expecting my first child in September and I’m seriously questioning the world I’m bringing them into.

Firstly, black lives matter, just like other minority communities and no one deserves to be marginalised based on their skin colour or there sexuality but there is literally no room for violence. But I do see why they are turning to it, they feel like they are not being heard and they have likely become disillusioned with the people there to protect them.

So how do we fix it? Well first there needs to be some leadership from within government. Someone admitting that enough still hasn’t been done to level the playing field, someone to remove the hate on both sides and try and move our country and world forward. We also need to admit this won’t be a short term fix, there’s some hard graft that needs to be put in to right some wrongs.
Lastly, we need to remove the hate and bile people spout on social media, how is it right that someone can just abuse someone else on line with no consequence? Some may call it banter but you have no idea what someone else has going on and how what you say may effect them. I think what I am getting it is that we have created a world where we can communicate with people we have never met on the other side of the world and some of us use it to spread hate.
Unfortunately there will always be ignorant individuals in this world but maybe we all need to do more to call it out and just be kind.
It can make the biggest difference and costs nothing.

Wyred

1.) 08 Jun 2020 18:12:43
Hi mate, the ball is rolling like never before across the western world and the more peaceful the protests are the less Trogan Horse ammunition there is for those who don't want change at all but are ashamed or afraid to be openly seen as not wanting change.

As Bobby Marley said
"Until there are no longer first class and second class citizens of any nation
until the colour of a man's skin is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes "
until the basic human rights are equally garenteed to without regard to race "
we are confident in the victory of good over evil".

There can be no turning back now thankfully but true and lasting change will only come and come quickly if built on the solid foundations of peaceful consensus rather than with violence and confrontation.
When Nelson Mandela was finally released his message was simple clear and beautiful, forgiveness.


2.) 08 Jun 2020 18:30:08
Sorry that should have been Bob Marley not Bobby Marley, not sure how I managed that.


3.) 09 Jun 2020 11:39:47
As Bob also said,

This morning I woke up in a curfew
O God, I was a prisoner, too - yeah!
Could not recognize the faces standing over me
They were all dressed in uniforms of brutality. Eh!

How many rivers do we have to cross
Before we can talk to the boss? Eh!
All that we got, it seems we have lost
We must have really paid the cost
Burnin' and a-lootin' tonight

(Say we going to burn and loot)
Burnin' and a-lootin' tonight
(One more thing)
Burnin' all pollution tonight
(Oh, yeah, yeah)
Burnin' all illusion tonight

Same story for centuries, and people are more appalled by a statue of a racist being dumped in the sea.


4.) 09 Jun 2020 13:49:54
Exactly gunner, there are idiots in all walks of life and the violence is damaging their message.

Then you have people creating there own narrative on twitter and facebook. Think I should really deactivate the latter.

The simple message should be of respect and kindness and build from there. The world has been an ugly place at times and it will take time and effort from all sides to right.


5.) 09 Jun 2020 18:38:45
Hi Danny
" emancipate yourself from mental slavery none but ourselves can free our minds
Have no fear for automatic energy cause none of them can stop the time.
How long shall they kill our brothers and sisters while we stand aside and look
Some say it's just the way of things it's better not to look "
Won't you help to sing another song of freedom.

I took some slight liberties with Bob's lyrics there but the meaning is the same.

It's a statue that should have been removed long long ago mate, we shouldn't ever forget the past happend but we can never truly put the past behind us while we celebrate the very worst of it.

Hi Wyred mate
I have for years totally believed in Martin Luther Kings words that
" in the future We will have to teach the children of the future what war hunger and racism used to be because war hunger and racism won't exist in the future "
I know it seems impossible to believe right now but 100 years ago who would have believed that a woman could be prime minister when women
couldn't even vote at the time or a black man could be president of America when black and white children couldn't attend the same school or play together.
We the human race are still evolving mentally and emotionally, unfortunately some are struggling to keep up and are going to need some encouragement to put aside their fears and (in the words of Barack Obama) " unclench their fists and hold out their hands "


 

 

08 May 2020 10:19:20
I’ve just been reading about Kyle Walker and him breaking the lockdown rules again.

Now I appreciate that he has gone through a hard time for whatever reason, mainly due to his party during lockdown last month but coming out like ‘woe is me’ doesn’t sit right with me. Everyone is struggling in their own ways with the quarantine but they are trying to make it work.
But to act like, because of his actions, it’s ok to visit family because it got a bit tough sends out completely the wrong message.
If we all had that mindset there would be no lockdown.
He has put it down to mental health, and I completely appreciate it can impact anyone, I have been there. But, and I apologise wholeheartedly if I am wrong, but it feels like it’s thrown in there to protect himself and he needs to accept that it’s his actions that have caused his family pain.
Apologies if my mini rant isn't for these pages.

Wyred

1.) 09 May 2020 15:36:14
Couldn't agree more Wyred mate, we are all struggling but some people have a complely disproportionate sense of self importantance and self importantance that exonerates them from what they feel is right for everyone but themselves and those they care about.
Footballers film stars pop stars by nature of their industries can
very easily develop a highly inflated sense of ego like Emma Thompson I think it was who was happy to lecture others on climate issues but laughed at the very idea of her personally having to fly economy. I genuinely don't think they can see past themselves anymore and genuinely struggle to understand why others can't appreciate and understand their personal needs above the rest of the world's.
Kyle Walker like so many high profile celebrities wants to be seen as and talked about as a fantastic role model while at the same time be excused for living and doing what's only good for Kyle Walker.
Selective sense of conscience, personal responsibility and morality I think they call it, he could certainly do with getting some professional help but not for the reasons he think he needs it in my opinion.


2.) 10 May 2020 08:59:05
Half of these aren’t even close to role models mate, to be caught having a party and then to say, you are invading my privacy, just shows they have no idea of what’s going on around them.
Funny story, if you don’t go to the party and break the lockdown you won’t be in the papers.
Don’t get me started on the climate fighters who preach but then go and do something else.
Climate is clearly a huge issue we have to deal with but if you are so passionate about it you need to stick by your words and not just say it as it’s the right thing to do.

Hope your keeping sane in lockdown gunner!


3.) 10 May 2020 11:48:12
Definitely having some tough days where I'm struggling a bit mentally Wyred mate but thankfully I'm still managing to have more ok days so far.
No one likes hypocritical people who don't practice what they so love to preach on a regular basis to everyone else about how they personally think the world should be, Just look at the scientists who are advising the rest of the country how to stay safe then breaking the rules they themselves helped create and are having to step down?
The problem with putting yourself on a pedestal is having the self control to stay there.
Lock down is tough and I totally understand some people are more capable of handling it than others but the more the minority of people brake the restrictions the longer the majority will have to suffer.
When it's all over people will naturally look back at the hero's and villains, those who went above and beyond for others and of course those who put themselves before everyone and anyone else, the problem for Kyle is he wants to live one way but seems to have a real need to be seen as one of the good guys and feels hard done by if people judge him by his actions rather than his words.
Hope all is good with you and yours Wyred mate.


 

 

 

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09 Jun 2020 13:49:54
Exactly gunner, there are idiots in all walks of life and the violence is damaging their message.

Then you have people creating there own narrative on twitter and facebook. Think I should really deactivate the latter.

The simple message should be of respect and kindness and build from there. The world has been an ugly place at times and it will take time and effort from all sides to right.

Wyred

 

 

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10 May 2020 08:59:05
Half of these aren’t even close to role models mate, to be caught having a party and then to say, you are invading my privacy, just shows they have no idea of what’s going on around them.
Funny story, if you don’t go to the party and break the lockdown you won’t be in the papers.
Don’t get me started on the climate fighters who preach but then go and do something else.
Climate is clearly a huge issue we have to deal with but if you are so passionate about it you need to stick by your words and not just say it as it’s the right thing to do.

Hope your keeping sane in lockdown gunner!

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20 Mar 2020 19:04:38
How longs this site been knocking around for? Hope it provides a space for people to talk.

And g62 not sure there is a medicine for supporting the gunners!

In all seriousness, hope your ok mate!

Wyred

{Ed033's Note - This site was reopened today


 

 

 

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